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Okay, I've set this so anybody can vote, but nobody can see who voted for what. Feel free to link both this post and the one before it which explains the options.

TO CLARIFY: do not tick your personal likes/dislikes here - tick the things you think should be banned from being shown/described in any kind of pornography.

Another clarification: assume consent of all performers. I think it's safe to assume that everyone likely to be reading this agrees on the issue of consensuality (if you don't, feel free to explain why in a comment - anon if you prefer). This would include a pre-death release form signed by the corpse, in the case of necrophilia. You can decide your own definition of 'consenting' for an animal for purposes of voting on bestiality (please see my reply to [livejournal.com profile] libellum below).


[Poll #604149]

(no subject)

Date: 2005-11-03 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelyoliver.livejournal.com
This is such a tricky issue. I did not in the end tick the box saying that non-simulated violence should be banned but this is because once you get to the very extreme ends of human sexuality then the water gets very muddy indeed. I'd prefer to leave violent pornography under the various laws which already exist, those which make it illegal to commit assault, sexual assualt and rape as well as those which make it illegal to profit from crime. Its a mistake to try and legistlate against art in any form, you can only legistlate against what people do to each other (and animals).


As for necrophilia, I see no difference between shagging a corpse and using a large carrot as a dildo.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-11-03 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simm42.livejournal.com
depends if you had the consent of the person before they died - some people consider remains sacrosanct.

As for the rest I'd tend to agree but then again under current law you cant agree to being beating - the Dom(me) is still commiting ABH/GBH and technically the sub is guilty of inciting ABH/GBH though I've never heard of a case pressed.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-11-03 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelyoliver.livejournal.com
indeed, that's the theory but strangely enough the powers that be do on occassion have a modicum of common sense and if neither party goes to the police to complain then it usually gets left alone.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-11-03 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fellcat.livejournal.com
if neither party goes to the police to complain then it usually gets left alone.

That's why I'm very happy for the law to stay as it is.

The problem with decriminalising consensual physical assault is that, in doing so, you effectively decriminalise rape with assault.

Already, the standard defence for rape is "We had sex, and I believed that sie consented", which the prosecution find very hard to disprove; the victim's word is not generally enough, and the jury has to accept that a certain level of internal injury could result from rough consensual sex. If the jury had to accept that a certain level of external injury could result from consensual activities, then prosecuting rape would become even harder than it already is, and even more rapists would go unpunished.

I may be at a small risk of prosecution for assault, but I'm at a much larger risk of being raped and, should that happen, I'd like to have a chance in hell of prosecuting my attacker.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-11-03 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberredfraggle.livejournal.com
As for necrophilia, I see no difference between shagging a corpse and using a large carrot as a dildo.

Thank you, that quote made me smile. :D

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