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"Every single person in the UK should be compelled to have their DNA on the national database in an effort to prevent crime, a senior police officer has argued." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3088920.stm

As part of his justification, the guy uses the fact that "estimates suggest" (gotta love those definite statements) "as many as 600 people in the UK have committed murder and escaped initial detection..."

(a) Note the lack of a time scale - is this since the police started keeping records a few centuries ago, or what?
(b) Notice the word 'initial' - he doesn't happen to volunteer any data about how many of those were subsequently caught (without the aid of a massively privacy invading DNA database), does he?!

Even if there were 600 murderers running around free because this database doesn't exist, I still think that would have a less detrimental effect on our social structure overall than this kind of database could and, inevitably, eventually, would.

And people wonder why I have no respect for the legal system and the police force any more.

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deeteeuk.livejournal.com
I still respect the basic copper on the street, because at the end of the day, we do need them, and most of them aren't trying to butt into your lives.

But those higher up the chain, at policy level, are making a concerted effort to move towards a police state, free from minor irritations such as privacy laws. It's a gradual process, but it does occur. What annoys me most is how it makes me sound like a loon with a tinfoil hat. Next I'll be ranting about 'The Man' and how we're all pawns.....

Anyway, I'm off to stock up the bunker.

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:21 am (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
It's one guy's opinion, that's all.

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Not one who is lacking in influence though, unfortunately... and there does seem to be a general drift in favour of laws that take away a little privacy, supposedly in return for a little security.

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Kevin Morris, chairman of the Police Superintendents Association, told the Times newspaper opposition to extending the scheme to every man, woman and child was overstated.

The association will call this week for the extension [...]

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:53 am (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
opposition to extending the scheme to every man, woman and child was overstated

MRDA.

These are the same people who called for the return of hanging for a couple of decades, and didn't get it, even under the Tories.

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Date: 2003-09-08 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Heh, not seen that acronym (http://www.brightonnewmedia.org/archives/2002-March/004391.html) before :)

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Date: 2003-09-08 09:16 am (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
It's a good one. It should get out more.

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Date: 2003-09-08 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
He can't have my DNA, I shall hide it in a handbag or something.

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Date: 2003-09-08 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Dare I ask what you're holding in your hand in that icon? :)

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Date: 2003-09-08 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
well the funny/apt thing to say would be 'my dna' but it's actually hatter's hand, and my leg.

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Date: 2003-09-08 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
I figured out that it wasn't your hand just after I posted that...

I notice you're still not saying what the hand is holding though ;)

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Date: 2003-09-08 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
Context (http://bfo.org.uk/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=ghotibday020803&id=DSCF0145)

I beleive he's holding what can only be refered to as my bottom.

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Date: 2003-09-08 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
as you can see (http://bfo.org.uk/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=ghotibday020803&id=DSCF0142)

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Date: 2003-09-08 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Hrm... is that another camera? The mind boggles ;)

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Date: 2003-09-08 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
He's keeping those pics for blackmail purposes probably.

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