The way the instructors (I assume it's them) just naturally walk from the wall into the airflow and back (including backflips in the process) is pretty cool. How long before you get to do that?
*grin* Their apparent disregard for gravity is highly entertaining.
I could probably do the walking up the walls thing now, although they might get annoyed with me - it's fairly easy as long as you're face-down. You're actually flying and just using the wall as a stable reference point.
Backflips are rather further away - flying on my back is the first step towards them though :)
Adam is a really good coach - he watched about ten seconds of my last flight on DVD and went 'yeah, I see what you're doing, no problem'. He taught me a fourth way of turning when backflying - which is the one I was doing by mistake, causing me to go into spins - so now I know how to control it. I am so very happy :) I just wish I'd hired him a couple of weeks earlier.
Denny - love your clips! We've just launched a new UGC sports channel with lots of 'alternative' sports on it - please could you upload some to there? It would go down really well I reckon. It's at www.itvlocalgrassroots.com - fire stuff would be cool there too. xx
I'm happy to upload the fire stuff as long as I retain all rights to it. I'm not sure what the deal is with redistribution of the Airkix video - I paid for it, but they may forbid republishing or something - although I doubt it, it's good advertising for them! I'll ask, to make sure.
"By making a Submission to our Website, you grant us a worldwide, perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free and transferable licence (with the right to sub-license) to use, edit, reproduce, record, modify, translate, distribute, play, perform, make available to the other users of the Services, prepare derivative works of and to display your Submission by any medium or method whether now known or later developed to be exercised in our sole discretion throughout the world for the full term of copyright and other rights and all renewable and extension thereof including, for the avoidance of doubt, the right to register any design rights and/or trademarks. You agree to waive your moral rights in your Submission."
No, basically. You can have a license to show it on the website, and use it in advertising for the website, but that lot is taking the piss. If you want content for the entirety of the ITV group, pay for it.
Transferrable (and the right to sub-license). No, absolutely not. If I want to sell (or give) it to someone else I will, but you don't get to.
Any medium or method. No. I post a video to a website, it's for the website. If you want to use a bit of it in advertising on another medium, that's a separate (although probably short and entirely amicable) negotiation - or, include a clause allowing you to use excerpts for purposes of advertising the service on other mediums. You want to use the whole thing in another medium, that's definitely a separate negotiation and license.
The right to register design rights and/or trademarks. Based on me or my activities? I think not. Again, separate negotiation, and possibly not a short one.
Finally, the phrase 'waive your moral rights' tastes nasty. I'm not sure what its legal meaning is, but I'm guessing it's not something I'd be particularly happy to do. The content is mine, and it stays that way. You just get to use it, because I'm nice. (Or don't, in this case, because apparently you aren't nice.)
I'm not super-keen on giving away edit/modify rights and derivative works either, but probably wouldn't have worried about those bits had the above bits not been in there.
I'm sure you'll have plenty of content without me, but I wonder how much of that is because people tick these things without reading them. Those are heavily exploitive terms.
Not quite - I can revoke their license by deleting the video. Your conditions say 'permanent'.
Other than that, yes, they're just as unreasonable - but that single difference means that I can do something about it if they actually do exploit their unreasonable 'rights'.
The odds are no website is going to make unreasonable use of my content, I'm not that interesting :) but handing over all control of it is just a silly thing to do.
Actually, re-reading, they also only include 'other media' for purposes of advertising and promotion - they're don't seem to have allowed themselves to (for instance) make a TV show of their favourite user-submitted clips.
They don't seem to have edit/modify rights either, although they do have derivative works.
In case it wasn't clear, I was using 'you' to refer to the company you work for... I didn't think it was your personal doing :)
I've uploaded one Airkix clip as I'd already asked their permission and they said it was okay by them, but I'm not inclined to upload any fire performances by myself and my friends, or anything else really, unless the conditions become considerably less grasping.
Your moral right to a work is your right to be identified as the author, to publish the work under a nom de guerre, to assert the integrity of the work...in other words all the non-economic rights you have to it.
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:54 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 09:29 am (UTC)Denny - you teh man! That's so cool!
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Date: 2007-10-25 10:38 am (UTC)I could probably do the walking up the walls thing now, although they might get annoyed with me - it's fairly easy as long as you're face-down. You're actually flying and just using the wall as a stable reference point.
Backflips are rather further away - flying on my back is the first step towards them though :)
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 07:31 am (UTC)\o/
:)
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Date: 2007-10-25 08:00 am (UTC)|
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Date: 2007-10-25 08:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 10:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 08:53 am (UTC)It's at www.itvlocalgrassroots.com - fire stuff would be cool there too. xx
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Date: 2007-10-25 09:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 10:11 am (UTC)No, basically. You can have a license to show it on the website, and use it in advertising for the website, but that lot is taking the piss. If you want content for the entirety of the ITV group, pay for it.
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Date: 2007-10-25 10:51 am (UTC)Transferrable (and the right to sub-license). No, absolutely not. If I want to sell (or give) it to someone else I will, but you don't get to.
Any medium or method. No. I post a video to a website, it's for the website. If you want to use a bit of it in advertising on another medium, that's a separate (although probably short and entirely amicable) negotiation - or, include a clause allowing you to use excerpts for purposes of advertising the service on other mediums. You want to use the whole thing in another medium, that's definitely a separate negotiation and license.
The right to register design rights and/or trademarks. Based on me or my activities? I think not. Again, separate negotiation, and possibly not a short one.
Finally, the phrase 'waive your moral rights' tastes nasty. I'm not sure what its legal meaning is, but I'm guessing it's not something I'd be particularly happy to do. The content is mine, and it stays that way. You just get to use it, because I'm nice. (Or don't, in this case, because apparently you aren't nice.)
I'm not super-keen on giving away edit/modify rights and derivative works either, but probably wouldn't have worried about those bits had the above bits not been in there.
I'm sure you'll have plenty of content without me, but I wonder how much of that is because people tick these things without reading them. Those are heavily exploitive terms.
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:00 pm (UTC)*sigh*
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 01:25 pm (UTC)Other than that, yes, they're just as unreasonable - but that single difference means that I can do something about it if they actually do exploit their unreasonable 'rights'.
The odds are no website is going to make unreasonable use of my content, I'm not that interesting :) but handing over all control of it is just a silly thing to do.
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:34 pm (UTC)They don't seem to have edit/modify rights either, although they do have derivative works.
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:21 pm (UTC)In case it wasn't clear, I was using 'you' to refer to the company you work for... I didn't think it was your personal doing :)
I've uploaded one Airkix clip as I'd already asked their permission and they said it was okay by them, but I'm not inclined to upload any fire performances by myself and my friends, or anything else really, unless the conditions become considerably less grasping.
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Date: 2007-10-25 01:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 02:23 pm (UTC)Nice video, btw, looks like fun. :)
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Date: 2007-10-25 12:35 pm (UTC)Is it wrong of me to particularly snigger at that part?
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Date: 2007-10-25 12:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-25 12:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-10-26 04:14 pm (UTC)*rawrs you happily* <3