I can't say I am suprised, I suppose it bothers me slightly that the DPA can be circumvented by the DB's arcitecture - but it was only really a matter of time until someone found a way round it. - they probably keep the personal info offshore where the DPA cant touch it.
I think I am resigned to the fact that "Big Shopkeeper" is watching my every move, I doubt i can stop it and I will just have to rely on being just another insignificant number in a DB of millions. *shrugs*
If you have already used a card then you are on the system and "The Matrix Has You" - I considered moving on to cash-only but i would just be cutting off my nose to spite my face, I couldnt beat them, but having to buy everything in cash would just be a PITA
So what, tescos knows that I Drink far too many Energy Drinks and eat too many ready meals - not exactly Top Secret
Well there's a cash machine outside the front of any of the supermarkets that might be participating in the scheme. It's not hard really.
No, I agree, I'm not too concerned about the information they have on me, but I do object to two things:
The information they're holding on me being withheld from me despite the DPA
It being used by other companies to target me with yet more marketing.
I never respond to marketing that is foisted upon me because I object to their methods (of foisting it upon me). It's my only real way of making any difference.
I still think that it totals up to "no difference", you just end up making a rod for your own back by trying to avoid it. Like the couple I saw in Homebase yesterday giving it the "I will never shop here again" bit - the Manager they were talking to simply indicated all the other customers in the store and said "oh well, bye then"
The article also refers to the Credit Scoring companies having connections with this massive DB. It may only be a matter of time before your habit of using cash starts to hurt your credit score. I wouldnt put it past em....
Yes. That's the problem - the individuals are suffering as a result of all this crap, and there is no real way to prevent it without a huge effort, which, as you point out, I'm not prepared to do.
Still, it doesn't stop it from irritating the f*ck out of me.
Up until recently, you were able to opt out of major sources of information on yourself: the telephone directory, the (public) electoral register - but these business-driven ventures don't care for individual's rights any more.
You should have seen the issues I've had resolving a couple of issues and a Notice of Disassociation with the two main Credit Reference Agencies. Still trying to fix the last bits... grrr.
I never respond to marketing that is foisted upon me
Ditto - when will they realise that?
That's why I'm on the mail/telephone preference list.
Having a relationship with my bank doesn't mean I want them to keep sending me offers like "get a loan" - I went paper-free for my statements to reduce the environmental impact, and they are just sending me recycle fodder, which I have to waste my time checking and shreading. I really should invoice them for my time...
Work out how much you are going to spend. Take the cash out of the cashpoint at the entrance. Shop.Don't use a clubcard. The rewards are terrible and the risks not worth it.
I'm not entirely sure exactly *what* the risk is of Tesco 'knowing' that I like to buy their juice and that I sometimes need to by houshold cleaning products is. I mean, the checkout person knows anyway so I can't be buying dodgy/illegal combinations of things and expecting no-one to notice ever, and besides, Tesco doesn't *sell* anything that I'm not allowed to buy...
I'm not sure that I *want* Tesco, or anyone else, keeping these records. But so long as all they are doing with them is *advertising* (and I don't see what else they really can do) then I will continue to through the spam in the spam bin and my life will not change one bit. Except that it is possible that I will get relevent spam... the advantage of having Tesco know what I buy from them is that their website knows what I bought in store. So I don't have to hunt, not a problem.
Maybe I have a wild imagination but the thought of a computer somewhere having all that personal information on my tastes and habits doesnt make me feel secure.
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Date: 2005-09-20 09:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 10:11 am (UTC)I think I am resigned to the fact that "Big Shopkeeper" is watching my every move, I doubt i can stop it and I will just have to rely on being just another insignificant number in a DB of millions. *shrugs*
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Date: 2005-09-20 10:41 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 10:56 am (UTC)So what, tescos knows that I Drink far too many Energy Drinks and eat too many ready meals - not exactly Top Secret
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Date: 2005-09-20 11:01 am (UTC)No, I agree, I'm not too concerned about the information they have on me, but I do object to two things:
- The information they're holding on me being withheld from me despite the DPA
- It being used by other companies to target me with yet more marketing.
I never respond to marketing that is foisted upon me because I object to their methods (of foisting it upon me). It's my only real way of making any difference.(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:09 am (UTC)I still think that it totals up to "no difference", you just end up making a rod for your own back by trying to avoid it. Like the couple I saw in Homebase yesterday giving it the "I will never shop here again" bit - the Manager they were talking to simply indicated all the other customers in the store and said "oh well, bye then"
The article also refers to the Credit Scoring companies having connections with this massive DB. It may only be a matter of time before your habit of using cash starts to hurt your credit score. I wouldnt put it past em....
(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:13 am (UTC)Still, it doesn't stop it from irritating the f*ck out of me.
Up until recently, you were able to opt out of major sources of information on yourself: the telephone directory, the (public) electoral register - but these business-driven ventures don't care for individual's rights any more.
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Date: 2005-09-20 11:20 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:23 am (UTC)and remember, half of the people you meet are below average.
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Date: 2005-09-20 11:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 01:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 01:27 pm (UTC)Ditto - when will they realise that?
That's why I'm on the mail/telephone preference list.
Having a relationship with my bank doesn't mean I want them to keep sending me offers like "get a loan" - I went paper-free for my statements to reduce the environmental impact, and they are just sending me recycle fodder, which I have to waste my time checking and shreading. I really should invoice them for my time...
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Date: 2005-09-20 10:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:41 am (UTC)I'm not sure that I *want* Tesco, or anyone else, keeping these records. But so long as all they are doing with them is *advertising* (and I don't see what else they really can do) then I will continue to through the spam in the spam bin and my life will not change one bit. Except that it is possible that I will get relevent spam... the advantage of having Tesco know what I buy from them is that their website knows what I bought in store. So I don't have to hunt, not a problem.
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Date: 2005-09-20 02:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-09-20 11:32 am (UTC)Except, maybe, this:
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Date: 2005-09-20 04:54 pm (UTC)