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Denny ([personal profile] denny) wrote2005-05-10 03:09 pm

Today I will be mostly drooling over...


mmmm, shiny

It's right up at the top end of my price range, but... guh. Wantitwantitwantit!

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually I lie, I was expecting it to be fun to drive day-to-day as well. Missed that point until I re-read your comment...

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That made me laugh too :-D

[identity profile] bluecassandra.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I like it, but only cos its shiny and balc. i didnt like the other one cos it was white. Obviuosly, my ideal car is shiny and blue.

Re: Footnote:

[identity profile] kelemvor.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
And I thought it was just me that was having "fun" with the experience.
*Bangs head on desk in exasperation at VBA's so-called "Help"*

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Stuart, would you mind adding me on any IM you have handy? It seems like you would be a useful person to discuss this whole shiny-fast-thing thing with :) I have the usual five, they're all listed on my user profile here...

[identity profile] gashinryu.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
KITT - Knight Industries Two Thousand
KARR - Knight Automated Roving Robot

So sad, I know. :-)

[identity profile] stuartl.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll go through the list one by one:

  • gt28rs turbo
    A much bigger and higher spec turbo. Although this means it compresses much more air (and hence the detonation in the engine is much more severe, see below) a bigger and heavier turbo takes much longer to spin up. This means that every time you let the engine revs drop the turbo spins down and doesn't respond quickly when you then put your foot down. On a track this isn't a problem because you're hammering the car all the time. On the road it will make the car unresponsive and slow off the line.

  • Extremeboost Downpipe (de-cat)
    This is the pipe that connects the manifold (exhaust outlet) of the engine to the exhaust system. To change the turbo the exhaust system would have to have changed as the turbo is spun by the exhaust gases exiting the engine.

  • greddy intercooler
    As the turbo compresses the air the air heats up. Hot air is less dense than cold air so better performance is achieved by cooling it down. The intercooler is a radiator that sits between the turbo and the air intake of the engine which allows cold air to pass over the radiator and cool the compressed air inside it.

  • TB-Developments Custom Throttle Body Intake
    The throttle body was probably changed to accept the intercooler output. The standard throttle body is probably quite narrow and limits the amount of air that can pass.

  • 540cc Injectors
    The injectors are the little gizmos which squirt the fuel into the piston in each 'suck' cycle. As the turbo is now pumping a lot more air into the system than was originally intended the standard injectors (and fuel pump below) wouldn't have been able to supply enough fuel to keep the engine running at the right mixture.

  • Walbro Fuel Pump
    As above.

  • Spec Stage 3 6-Puck Clutch
    This is obviously a higher spec clutch to deal with the extra power. Racing clutches engage much more sharply than road clutches and can be a pain in the left leg to use on the road. On the track the clutch is largely a digital thing and you just need to disconnect and reconnect the engine. Parking isn't something you need to do on the track :)

  • HKS Super Mega Flow Induction Kit
    This kit replaces the standard air intake with a larger bore pipe, high flow air filter etc to give the turbo enough air flow to compress it all before feeding it to the intercooler and then the throttle body.

  • HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
    High temperature, longer lasting, better spark. Changing the spark plugs in this manner will undoubtedly completely screw the timing. Hopefully the engine has been remapped since the spark plug change.

  • Magnecor Leads
    These are the electrical high voltage leads which connect the spark generator to the spark plugs. Good quality leads can make a little difference but usually the changes are just for aesthetics.


to be continued...

[identity profile] stuartl.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
continued...

  • Apexi Super Lightweight Racing Exhaust System
    Don't get me started on exhaust systems. Too late ;) Boy racers seem to think that a large bore pipe means more gas will flow meaning that the engine has an easier time and hence produces more power. Unfortunately it's not that simple and manufacturers spend a lot of time and money tuning a factory exhaust system to match the characteristics of the engine. There are two prime factors which are screwed by someone tinkering with an exhaust.
    1. Back pressure is deliberately created in exhaust systems to increase the torque of the engine at lower revs. If you replace the exhaust with an open exhaust that doesn't have this back pressure the engine will generate less torque at lower revs and more torque at higher revs. This means you have to rev the nuts off the engine to get anything you can really use.
    2. Widening the exhaust causes the exhaust gases to expand prematurely and cool down, making them denser and less free flowing. Attention could be paid to TVR here, who even on their 5 litre V8 engines only have two 1.5" bore exhausts coming out the back of the car. TVR know a thing or two about tuning exhausts ;)

  • Blitz Turbo Timer
    The turbo timer keeps the oil pump and engine fan running after you remove the ignition key. The oil in the turbo is often run at very high temperatures and if you stop the engine without letting this oil cool down it can boil on the turbo vanes and cause corrosion. You REALLY don't want corrosion in a piece of metal spinning at several hundred thousand rpm ... ;)

  • Turbo XS Boost Solenoids With Manual Switch Mounted On Dashboard. (High Boost 17psi-Low 10psi)
    This is just a switch to control the limit of the turbo. There will be safety valves attached the the turbo exhaust input (called waste gates) which let exhaust gases bypass the turbo (and hence let it slow down and reduce intake air pressure) when the intake air pressure rises too much. It's a safety system.

  • TRD Dials With Traction Control
    Traction control is an electronic system to back off the throttle when wheels start spinning. Some systems are awful, some are absolutely amazing. I have no idea if this one is any good.

  • Apexi Racing Supension Set-Up
    This is where, for me, the car turns from a slug into something undrivable. The tarmac on race tracks is incredibly flat, like an airstrip, and the suspension is there to keep the car level, not to soak up any bumps. On the road it's a different story with pot holes, drains, cats eyes and seams in the concrete. Hitting any of these items in a car with racing suspension is likely to hurt and cause intense tiredness when driving long distance. And then there's speed bumps...



Personally I wouldn't go for it unless you were looking for a track car. I like fun cars but they have to be serious road cars and not something that I'll hate to go to Tesco in...

[identity profile] ev1ldonut.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear, I know this...

Knight Industries Two Thousand & Knight Automated Roving Robot

*feels very geeky*

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*jaffa cake*

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*jaffa cake*

[identity profile] djlongfella.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
My God, that started life as an MR 2 ?!?!!?!? Jeez.....
And are you spying on me ? as I got gezumped on a celica with full kit last night, and here you are, supposadly my friend posting " dirty " pictures again...:0
Hope the insurance works out for you....

Oh does it have the " in flight fueling socket fitted " from that spec it sounds like it's gonna need it :)

[identity profile] djlongfella.livejournal.com 2005-05-10 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Applauds your concise and easy to understand explanation Sir

[identity profile] ganzor.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
If you want my suggestion, I say go for any newer honda car. They are slightly more expensive but are far more reliable than any other car I have owned. Our oldest honda has over 250,000 miles on it and is still running fine and looks quite good for it's age also =) That car does look pretty freakin' awesome though, won't deny that. I just think going for reliability and practical use will be a better spend in the long run. Good luck on choosing a new car!

[identity profile] taoist-goth.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
You're not seriously considering a chavved up ricer are you?

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
Um, yes?

[identity profile] taoist-goth.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
*slaps forehead*

You'll be wearing baseball caps next! ;)

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Only when I'm doing fire-poi, to stop my hair catching light :)

Seriously, the Jap stuff seems like the best bet for styling and speed with a hint of reliability in my price range. As my recent bouncing around models has shown, I've not really got my heart set on any particular car, but I do want it to turn heads, be nice to drive, and not blow up too often.

I did have a quick look at prices for the Lotus Elise, which I think are beautiful cars, but they seem to be just a bit above my price range (I'm looking up to a fairly hard limit of 10k including a year's insurance).

Suggestions are welcomed... I know you mentioned Porsches before but I don't really like their styling - as with the Supra, they tend to look too fat in the arse for my tastes :) Also, a Porsche isn't likely to turn heads... it's a fast car, but it's not a flash car, if you see what I mean?

[identity profile] taoist-goth.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
If you want reliability then a seriously tuned car is not the way to go. Performance cars are built to a level of tune that the menufacturer judges won't result in a myriad of warranty claims and factory recalls - tuning a stock car up will therefore almost always reduce reliability. The Elise is a nice choice, as is a 911, but yes the 911 doesn't really turn heads any more, but then I doubt a black MR2 will either. What about a 944 (quite rare nowadays) or if you really like ricers, an NSX or Skyline? There are also other Lotusses such as the Elan that may be in your price range. But as someone else said, throw the insurer a reasonable BHP figure and see how much they want to charge you, you might find it's rather a lot. If it's pure speed you want, a Caterham Super 7 might be worth a look.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not that interested in top speed - acceleration is more interesting.

[identity profile] taoist-goth.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's what I meant. The Super 7 doesn't have a great top speed but spine-shattering acceleration.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
The NSX looks a bit big, but nice. The ones I can find seem to be just above my price range though.

Someone else recommended the Mitsubishi 3000GT, which looks a similar size/shape, what do you think of those?

I think my problem here is that I have far too much freedom of choice - I've never had this much money to spend before, nor this complete lack of practical considerations - the range of options open to me is a bit bewildering :)

I doubt I'll get to test drive most of these either, which doesn't help.

[identity profile] taoist-goth.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The Mitsu should be alright - even a Lancer Evo (might be expensive though). What about a Renault 5 Turbo? None of them are head-turners though - I'd still pick a Porsche over any of them.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really like hatchbacks. Anyway, it was a Renault that nearly killed me, so I've got a bit of an irrational objection to the whole marque now :)

I would have thought the NSX or the 3000GT would be more likely to earn a second glance than a Porsche...

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2005-05-11 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, the EVO seems to be well within my price range. Look pretty kitted out as standard too...

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